Why Ebon? - Guild Wars Forums

Dervaholic · Jun 11, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

On PvX Wiki, many builds require an ebon weapon. Why not a shocking, icy, or fiery weapon?

There isn't an earth conjure was why I was wondering...

Covah · Jun 11, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Ebon does more dmg to warriors.

Neo Nugget · Jun 11, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ebon_Dust_Aura

This skill causes blindness when you use attack skills with an earth weapon.

What are some of the builds you saw on PvX wiki?

Dervaholic · Jun 11, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

this build for one http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...Arts_Spike_Sin
and i thought all elemental weapons did more damage to warriors?

N1ghtstalker · Jun 11, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

most people have armor sets vs slashing/piercing/fire damage
ebon is the least accounted for i think
so if your target has extra damage against your piercing daggers you can use your ebon so you won't do less damage
or something like that

kev read · Jun 11, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45

It's ebon because earth is the least common ele in PvP so less people carry a shield against it.

Also all ele mods do same damage vrs wars (removes the +20 armor)

Dervaholic · Jun 11, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45

kk thanks one question of many finally answered lol

Turtle222 · Jun 11, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

people tend to want to counter the basics: ie. 10vs fire, lightning etc as well

Quaker · Jun 11, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by Dervaholic

this build for one http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...Arts_Spike_Sin
and i thought all elemental weapons did more damage to warriors?

The author of that build probably mentions Ebon for the reasons given above. But you have to keep in mind that you actually can change things if you want to - you don't have to slavishly follow every detail of a build.

Yichi · Jun 11, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38

Unless using a conjure build, any weapon used in say a Shock Axe build or a Dragon Slash or Cripslash or Linebacker bar for an elemental weapon swap could be any elemental mod. The only way you will tell what it is for sure is by seeing them use either a conjure build, very few select skills such as Ebon Dust Aura or Grenths Grasp (icy weapon iirc) or a few select types of weapons aka icy or firey dragon sword, icy bladed axe, ice breaker hammer.

Most people say take ebon because not many people will carry a sheild vs earth damage, well ok maybe in HA or AB where sandstorm eles are more common place.

KMVRanger · Jun 11, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by kev read

It's ebon because earth is the least common ele in PvP so less people carry a shield against it.

Also all ele mods do same damage vrs wars (removes the +20 armor)

This makes so much sense and I never even considered it. I created dedicated Fire, Water and Earth Ele chars. By dedicated I mean that all the runes, elites, and greens they each carry are element specific. But I tend to play my Earth ele the most. She seems to consistantly cause the most damage no matter what kind of foe I face. Now I kinda know why.

FoxBat · Jun 11, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

If only [skill]Avatar of Melandru[/skill] was part of the meta again.

KMVRanger · Jun 12, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

If only [skill]Avatar of Melandru[/skill] was part of the meta again.

Pardon my ignorance. Meta?

Jetdoc · Jun 12, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49

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Originally Posted by KMVRanger

Pardon my ignorance. Meta?

PvP metagame. The current state of the game, or, in other words, the most commonly used builds, skills and tactics in PvP.

KMVRanger · Jun 12, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Meta (from Greek: μετά = "after", "beyond", "with"), is a prefix used in English in order to indicate a concept which is an abstraction from another concept, used to complete or add to the latter. The Greek meta is equivalent to the Latin post.

Did they remove Avatars from PvP? I never use dervish skills outside of PvE.

Buzzer · Jun 13, 2008, 11:22 AM // 11:22

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Originally Posted by KMVRanger

Did they remove Avatars from PvP? I never use dervish skills outside of PvE.

No. They just fell out of favor a bit.

RavagerOfDreams · Jun 13, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by KMVRanger

Did they remove Avatars from PvP? I never use dervish skills outside of PvE.

Bsurge got nerfed and signets and hexes are now the most popular anti melee so the anti condition Mel Derv has fallen out of use.

KMVRanger · Jun 18, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams

Bsurge got nerfed and signets and hexes are now the most popular anti melee so the anti condition Mel Derv has fallen out of use.

Ah yes, I can definitely attest to that. I use a Me/A build in AB that works fairly well against Ws, Dervs and Sins and, of course, it is hex based.

Hmm. Maybe they should add an new anti-hex avatar.

Sakura Az · Jun 18, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by KMVRanger

Hmm. Maybe they should add an new anti-hex avatar.

[skill]Avatar of Dwayna[/skill] says hi

KMVRanger · Jun 25, 2008, 07:18 PM // 19:18

Which one is that? Pop up isn't working. Yah, it never occurred to me that there already IS an anti-hex avatar. I rarely play my dervish and I only have Melandru and Balthazar.

Jun 11, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37	#1
Dervaholic Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Up your %$@! Guild: Shadows Own The[NITE] Profession: R/	Why Ebon? On PvX Wiki, many builds require an ebon weapon. Why not a shocking, icy, or fiery weapon? There isn't an earth conjure was why I was wondering...

Jun 11, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39	#3
Neo Nugget Site Contributor Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: R/	http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ebon_Dust_Aura This skill causes blindness when you use attack skills with an earth weapon. What are some of the builds you saw on PvX wiki? __________________ "Even if the morrow is barren of promises, nothing shall forestall my return."

Jun 12, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48	#15
KMVRanger Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Coast USA Profession: Me/Mo	Meta (from Greek: μετά = "after", "beyond", "with"), is a prefix used in English in order to indicate a concept which is an abstraction from another concept, used to complete or add to the latter. The Greek meta is equivalent to the Latin post. Did they remove Avatars from PvP? I never use dervish skills outside of PvE. Last edited by KMVRanger; Jun 12, 2008 at 08:51 PM // 20:51..

Jun 11, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39	#2
Covah Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ] Profession: Me/Rt	Ebon does more dmg to warriors.

Jun 11, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41	#4
Dervaholic Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Up your %$@! Guild: Shadows Own The[NITE] Profession: R/	this build for one http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...Arts_Spike_Sin and i thought all elemental weapons did more damage to warriors?

Jun 11, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43	#5
N1ghtstalker Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2007 Profession: E/	most people have armor sets vs slashing/piercing/fire damage ebon is the least accounted for i think so if your target has extra damage against your piercing daggers you can use your ebon so you won't do less damage or something like that

Jun 11, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45	#6
kev read Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Celestial Twilight [CT] Profession: D/	It's ebon because earth is the least common ele in PvP so less people carry a shield against it. Also all ele mods do same damage vrs wars (removes the +20 armor)

Jun 11, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11	#8
Turtle222 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: :D:D Profession: D/W	people tend to want to counter the basics: ie. 10vs fire, lightning etc as well

Jun 11, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38	#10
Yichi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match... Guild: Dark Alley [dR]	Unless using a conjure build, any weapon used in say a Shock Axe build or a Dragon Slash or Cripslash or Linebacker bar for an elemental weapon swap could be any elemental mod. The only way you will tell what it is for sure is by seeing them use either a conjure build, very few select skills such as Ebon Dust Aura or Grenths Grasp (icy weapon iirc) or a few select types of weapons aka icy or firey dragon sword, icy bladed axe, ice breaker hammer. Most people say take ebon because not many people will carry a sheild vs earth damage, well ok maybe in HA or AB where sandstorm eles are more common place.

Jun 11, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47	#12
FoxBat Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: Mo/Me	If only [skill]Avatar of Melandru[/skill] was part of the meta again.

Jun 25, 2008, 07:18 PM // 19:18	#20
KMVRanger Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Coast USA Profession: Me/Mo	Which one is that? Pop up isn't working. Yah, it never occurred to me that there already IS an anti-hex avatar. I rarely play my dervish and I only have Melandru and Balthazar.